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	<title>Comments on: Free CFL and Halloween Wind Turbine Costume Success!</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@digigreen --

The bulbs we handed out (more than a year ago) were in their retail packaging.  The boys gave them to adults who wanted them, not children, and explained what they were.  These were the same bulbs readily available on the market at the time.

It is true that as I spent more time investigating CFLs I learned that these bulbs, like almost all available at the time, were manufactured to lower standards than suitable.  I have subsequently written a review of bulbs from GE that are much higher quality.  Many thousands of people have seen the posts, and I hope learned what I did, which is that it&#039;s worth paying for better quality.

If you wish to address concerns about marketing dangerous products, perhaps you should turn your attention to cigarette companies, coal mining and burning facilities, and auto makers,  and the many other products sold that pose great present and future dangers to all of us.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@digigreen &#8211;</p>
<p>The bulbs we handed out (more than a year ago) were in their retail packaging.  The boys gave them to adults who wanted them, not children, and explained what they were.  These were the same bulbs readily available on the market at the time.</p>
<p>It is true that as I spent more time investigating CFLs I learned that these bulbs, like almost all available at the time, were manufactured to lower standards than suitable.  I have subsequently written a review of bulbs from GE that are much higher quality.  Many thousands of people have seen the posts, and I hope learned what I did, which is that it&#8217;s worth paying for better quality.</p>
<p>If you wish to address concerns about marketing dangerous products, perhaps you should turn your attention to cigarette companies, coal mining and burning facilities, and auto makers,  and the many other products sold that pose great present and future dangers to all of us.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: digigreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>digigreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although this was well-intentioned, you endanged all those people. You gave  them as easily breakable product containting mercury with no warnings or instructions on proper disposal or cleanup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although this was well-intentioned, you endanged all those people. You gave  them as easily breakable product containting mercury with no warnings or instructions on proper disposal or cleanup.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Harrison</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2007/11/03/free-cfl-and-halloween-wind-turbine-costume-success/comment-page-1/#comment-56081</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eliza -- there are a couple of &quot;pear shaped&quot; bulbs at Greenlights USA (https://www.greenlightsusa.com/store2/department/indoor_bulbs/page/1/) but they seem to max out at 60W equivalent.

The other option for spiral bulbs on lamps is to get one of those metal &quot;harp&quot; jobs that screw onto the light socket, and bend the metal spring clips up somehow.

Having been encouraged by our feat of engineering with the costume, I&#039;ll see if I can figure out how to do that with one of our lamps and post some pictures.

Sally -- it&#039;s an interesting question about whether to wait for the incandescents to burn out before replacing them.  The break-even point on &quot;standard&quot; CFLs vs. incandescents is probably something like 14 months (I calculated this on another post, just don&#039;t remember the actual figure) and CFLs can last from 5 to 10 years.  Depending on how long the bulbs you have now would last, I suppose you would have to calculate the residual value of the current bulb (&lt; $0.40) and disposal costs compared to the rate of energy savings of the CFL.  My gut says that with a small capital investment of a few dollars a bulb, you&#039;ll break even well before the expected lifespan of the CFL.  And since none of this accounts for actual energy costs (the unaccounted for external costs, such as pollution and greenhouse gas emissions and the chance that we&#039;ll have a marginally stable world economy), it&#039;s a good bet that changing the bulbs now is a big win.  So, waste not, want not :-) 

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eliza &#8212; there are a couple of &#8220;pear shaped&#8221; bulbs at Greenlights USA (<a href="https://www.greenlightsusa.com/store2/department/indoor_bulbs/page/1/" rel="nofollow">https://www.greenlightsusa.com/store2/department/indoor_bulbs/page/1/</a>) but they seem to max out at 60W equivalent.</p>
<p>The other option for spiral bulbs on lamps is to get one of those metal &#8220;harp&#8221; jobs that screw onto the light socket, and bend the metal spring clips up somehow.</p>
<p>Having been encouraged by our feat of engineering with the costume, I&#8217;ll see if I can figure out how to do that with one of our lamps and post some pictures.</p>
<p>Sally &#8212; it&#8217;s an interesting question about whether to wait for the incandescents to burn out before replacing them.  The break-even point on &#8220;standard&#8221; CFLs vs. incandescents is probably something like 14 months (I calculated this on another post, just don&#8217;t remember the actual figure) and CFLs can last from 5 to 10 years.  Depending on how long the bulbs you have now would last, I suppose you would have to calculate the residual value of the current bulb (< $0.40) and disposal costs compared to the rate of energy savings of the CFL.  My gut says that with a small capital investment of a few dollars a bulb, you&#8217;ll break even well before the expected lifespan of the CFL.  And since none of this accounts for actual energy costs (the unaccounted for external costs, such as pollution and greenhouse gas emissions and the chance that we&#8217;ll have a marginally stable world economy), it&#8217;s a good bet that changing the bulbs now is a big win.  So, waste not, want not :-) </p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza Harrison</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2007/11/03/free-cfl-and-halloween-wind-turbine-costume-success/comment-page-1/#comment-55700</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wholly impressed with Carter&#039;s costume.  I do have a question.  When Carter was walking down the street and the blades were going around, did you have them hooked up to a small storage battery?  OK, I guess that will be a project for next year.  Hey, maybe Nicky can be a storage battery next year :)  I am sending your blog on to a number of people up here, first to brag about my brother and nephew, and secondly because I think you are right about how important it is to get the word out about CFLs.  And by the way, I have been looking for a place to buy &quot;normal&quot; shaped bulbs.  Home Depot only sells the squiggly ones and they don&#039;t work well on the spring loaded shades.  So bulb.com here I come.  Thanks for the tip!  Hat&#039;s off to Carter and Nicky for getting the word out there.  That is how to get real grass roots social change -- reminds me of what we did back in the late 60&#039;s and early 70&#039;s when we had &quot;Earth Day&quot; .... we were collecting signatures door to door for cleaning up the rivers and harbors.  Hey, now that I think of it, they actually did do some seriously good work on that front.  It took a while, but damn, that did happen.

So let&#039;s all go door to door with a CFL in hand!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wholly impressed with Carter&#8217;s costume.  I do have a question.  When Carter was walking down the street and the blades were going around, did you have them hooked up to a small storage battery?  OK, I guess that will be a project for next year.  Hey, maybe Nicky can be a storage battery next year :)  I am sending your blog on to a number of people up here, first to brag about my brother and nephew, and secondly because I think you are right about how important it is to get the word out about CFLs.  And by the way, I have been looking for a place to buy &#8220;normal&#8221; shaped bulbs.  Home Depot only sells the squiggly ones and they don&#8217;t work well on the spring loaded shades.  So bulb.com here I come.  Thanks for the tip!  Hat&#8217;s off to Carter and Nicky for getting the word out there.  That is how to get real grass roots social change &#8212; reminds me of what we did back in the late 60&#8217;s and early 70&#8217;s when we had &#8220;Earth Day&#8221; &#8230;. we were collecting signatures door to door for cleaning up the rivers and harbors.  Hey, now that I think of it, they actually did do some seriously good work on that front.  It took a while, but damn, that did happen.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s all go door to door with a CFL in hand!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Carter and the Harrison family for thinking of (and following through with) such a good idea. The neighborhood loved the costume and Nicky thought handing out the CFLs with his pal was a great way to spend Halloween (and yes, of course he loved the candy too!). It&#039;s nice to see young kids thoughtfully engaged in energy conservation issues.  -Andrea (Nicky&#039;s mom)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Carter and the Harrison family for thinking of (and following through with) such a good idea. The neighborhood loved the costume and Nicky thought handing out the CFLs with his pal was a great way to spend Halloween (and yes, of course he loved the candy too!). It&#8217;s nice to see young kids thoughtfully engaged in energy conservation issues.  -Andrea (Nicky&#8217;s mom)</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now THAT is a fantastic  Halloween costume!!!  Great idea and masterful execution. I wish I could have had Carter and his buddy at my door -- i&#039;d have given theem all my snickers.... I still have a couple incandescents waiting to die out.
Love Sal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now THAT is a fantastic  Halloween costume!!!  Great idea and masterful execution. I wish I could have had Carter and his buddy at my door &#8212; i&#8217;d have given theem all my snickers&#8230;. I still have a couple incandescents waiting to die out.<br />
Love Sal</p>
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