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		<title>By: for m</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2008/09/09/cfl-bulb-review-recommended-cfl-bulbs-to-replace-incandescent/comment-page-1/#comment-62598</link>
		<dc:creator>for m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CFL Bulb Review: Best CFL Bulbs to Replace Incandescent &#124; Five Percent: Conserve a Little Energy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cool and Comfortable with No AC &#124; Five Percent: Conserve a Little Energy</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2008/09/09/cfl-bulb-review-recommended-cfl-bulbs-to-replace-incandescent/comment-page-1/#comment-62243</link>
		<dc:creator>Cool and Comfortable with No AC &#124; Five Percent: Conserve a Little Energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CFLs and other efficient light bulbs also burn cooler than standard bulbs. Use any light sparingly. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Philips Halogena Review: Dimmable, Warm, Less Energy &#124; Five Percent: Conserve a Little Energy</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2008/09/09/cfl-bulb-review-recommended-cfl-bulbs-to-replace-incandescent/comment-page-1/#comment-62215</link>
		<dc:creator>Philips Halogena Review: Dimmable, Warm, Less Energy &#124; Five Percent: Conserve a Little Energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lamps, hanging lamps and so on, all use CFL. Some use the GE EnergySmart brand I settled on in my CFL test and review last year. Others use ones I installed as long ago as 4 or 5 years &#8212; still going [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lamps, hanging lamps and so on, all use CFL. Some use the GE EnergySmart brand I settled on in my CFL test and review last year. Others use ones I installed as long ago as 4 or 5 years &#8212; still going [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve and Mark --

Your experiences are both typical.  In short, you will have poor results with &quot;cheap&quot; CFLs.  Unfortunately cheap seems to mean almost any brand other than the two brands people have consistently had good experiences, namely GE and nVision.

Regardless of expense, I did some thorough testing for this review, including tests of wattage.  The one thing that was consistent was that the listed wattage was accurate, according to my Kill-A-Watt meter.

Bottom line: what I said in the review is important for all buyers.  You can get good CFLs, but you&#039;ll have nothing but disappointment with brands that cost a little less.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve and Mark &#8211;</p>
<p>Your experiences are both typical.  In short, you will have poor results with &#8220;cheap&#8221; CFLs.  Unfortunately cheap seems to mean almost any brand other than the two brands people have consistently had good experiences, namely GE and nVision.</p>
<p>Regardless of expense, I did some thorough testing for this review, including tests of wattage.  The one thing that was consistent was that the listed wattage was accurate, according to my Kill-A-Watt meter.</p>
<p>Bottom line: what I said in the review is important for all buyers.  You can get good CFLs, but you&#8217;ll have nothing but disappointment with brands that cost a little less.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2008/09/09/cfl-bulb-review-recommended-cfl-bulbs-to-replace-incandescent/comment-page-1/#comment-62209</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
Your experience is certainly different with CFL&#039;s than mine.  I&#039;ve probably installed 30+ bulbs myself and have never had one that was bad out of the box.  The majority of my bulbs have been N-vision from Home Depot so I don&#039;t have experience with a lot of different manufacturers.

As for how long they last, I don&#039;t attract it specifically but I do know I&#039;ve ever had any fail in the first six months and probably none in the first year.  I also know a couple that I have had for over three years without a problem.

Like everything else I&#039;m sure that the difference between manufacturers.  Maybe have just gotten lucky but was that many installed I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
Your experience is certainly different with CFL&#8217;s than mine.  I&#8217;ve probably installed 30+ bulbs myself and have never had one that was bad out of the box.  The majority of my bulbs have been N-vision from Home Depot so I don&#8217;t have experience with a lot of different manufacturers.</p>
<p>As for how long they last, I don&#8217;t attract it specifically but I do know I&#8217;ve ever had any fail in the first six months and probably none in the first year.  I also know a couple that I have had for over three years without a problem.</p>
<p>Like everything else I&#8217;m sure that the difference between manufacturers.  Maybe have just gotten lucky but was that many installed I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2008/09/09/cfl-bulb-review-recommended-cfl-bulbs-to-replace-incandescent/comment-page-1/#comment-62208</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New CFL bulbs do not last anywhere near as long as advertised. Also, after 90 days even Wal-mart will make you send them back to the manufacturer for your warranty. My experience has been as follows:
I replaced most of the bulbs in my home over a 2 month period starting about 8 months ago (34 cfl bulbs total). 12 of these bulbs (34%) were defective out of the box. Either they did not work at all or only 1/2 the bulb lit up or they made a very loud buzzing sound. As of today (8 months later) I have had to replace 10 more for the same problems as noted before. I almost never got a defective ‘old style’ bulb out of the box and most of them lasted between 12 months to 36 months depending on usage. They also cost 1/5th as much. Since the advertised longevity of these bulbs seems to be exaggerated I’m not sure if we can be sure the energy savings estimates are true either.  For example, where the energy savings based on real life usage patterns or on side by side continuous use?  I’ve also heard recently that if you break one you need a hazmat team to clean it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New CFL bulbs do not last anywhere near as long as advertised. Also, after 90 days even Wal-mart will make you send them back to the manufacturer for your warranty. My experience has been as follows:<br />
I replaced most of the bulbs in my home over a 2 month period starting about 8 months ago (34 cfl bulbs total). 12 of these bulbs (34%) were defective out of the box. Either they did not work at all or only 1/2 the bulb lit up or they made a very loud buzzing sound. As of today (8 months later) I have had to replace 10 more for the same problems as noted before. I almost never got a defective ‘old style’ bulb out of the box and most of them lasted between 12 months to 36 months depending on usage. They also cost 1/5th as much. Since the advertised longevity of these bulbs seems to be exaggerated I’m not sure if we can be sure the energy savings estimates are true either.  For example, where the energy savings based on real life usage patterns or on side by side continuous use?  I’ve also heard recently that if you break one you need a hazmat team to clean it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Harrison</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2008/09/09/cfl-bulb-review-recommended-cfl-bulbs-to-replace-incandescent/comment-page-1/#comment-62154</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David_NYC --

If it&#039;s any consolation, you&#039;re not alone.  CFL manufacturers, and especially retailers, blew it by going cheap.

GE, at least is a good option, and their bulbs are available in a number of hardware stores, corner stores, and drug stores.

Thanks for your comment --

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David_NYC &#8211;</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s any consolation, you&#8217;re not alone.  CFL manufacturers, and especially retailers, blew it by going cheap.</p>
<p>GE, at least is a good option, and their bulbs are available in a number of hardware stores, corner stores, and drug stores.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment &#8211;</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: David_NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>David_NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When dollar stores were still selling everything, including electrical supplies, for a dollar, I knew enough to stay away from those electrical products. Now that these stores have breached the dollar price point and some of this junk merchandise is also appearing in local variety stores, people should beware of the fact that some of the CFL&#039;s now selling for $1.99 or so may be outright junk.

After a 100 watt equivalent CFL failed, I bought a Trisonic 26 watt spiral compact fluorescent lamp for $1.99 that alleged to be equivalent to 125 watts incandescent. The color was stated as soft white. The actual color could best be described as Daylight. The actual brightness was about equivalent to a 445 lumen 40 watt soft watt incandesent bulb. This bulb was packaged in a blister pack that had the base exposed, allowing one to test it without opening the package. So, I took it back to the Indian-run dollar store that breached the 99 cent price point a year ago on many items. I brought along a power cord and socket to show the lady. The lady said nothing was wrong, because the bulb lit up! I asked to speak to the manager, who agreed to let me test a few other samples. They all were about the same. They were willing to give me store credit, but no cash refund. I kept the bulb.

The only reason I bought this unknown brand was because the store is convenient to me and my local supermarket was out of 100 watt equivalent bulbs. But over the weekend I had some time, so I decided to try to find a second Trisonic sample from a different batch. Many miles from the original store I found the same Trisonic bulb type in slightly different blister packaging, so I felt it was probably from a different batch. That bulb had about the same characteristics as the first Trisonic bulb. I then put both bulbs in a fixture in the bathroom that normally has 40 watt incandescent soft white bulbs in it. The brightness in the room appears about the same with two 40 watt incandescent bulbs as with these two alleged 125 watt equivalent Trisonic bulbs.

Clearly, anyone buying this Trisonic lamp cannot use it to replace a 100 or 125 watt bulb, even if one just buys it in an emergency and doesn&#039;t care how long it lasts or if it falls apart after 1,000 hours of use. There is no UL or ETL label on this bulb, and no FCC electronic ballast ID#. Lower income people, after getting stung with this junk, will probably avoid CFL&#039;s in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When dollar stores were still selling everything, including electrical supplies, for a dollar, I knew enough to stay away from those electrical products. Now that these stores have breached the dollar price point and some of this junk merchandise is also appearing in local variety stores, people should beware of the fact that some of the CFL&#8217;s now selling for $1.99 or so may be outright junk.</p>
<p>After a 100 watt equivalent CFL failed, I bought a Trisonic 26 watt spiral compact fluorescent lamp for $1.99 that alleged to be equivalent to 125 watts incandescent. The color was stated as soft white. The actual color could best be described as Daylight. The actual brightness was about equivalent to a 445 lumen 40 watt soft watt incandesent bulb. This bulb was packaged in a blister pack that had the base exposed, allowing one to test it without opening the package. So, I took it back to the Indian-run dollar store that breached the 99 cent price point a year ago on many items. I brought along a power cord and socket to show the lady. The lady said nothing was wrong, because the bulb lit up! I asked to speak to the manager, who agreed to let me test a few other samples. They all were about the same. They were willing to give me store credit, but no cash refund. I kept the bulb.</p>
<p>The only reason I bought this unknown brand was because the store is convenient to me and my local supermarket was out of 100 watt equivalent bulbs. But over the weekend I had some time, so I decided to try to find a second Trisonic sample from a different batch. Many miles from the original store I found the same Trisonic bulb type in slightly different blister packaging, so I felt it was probably from a different batch. That bulb had about the same characteristics as the first Trisonic bulb. I then put both bulbs in a fixture in the bathroom that normally has 40 watt incandescent soft white bulbs in it. The brightness in the room appears about the same with two 40 watt incandescent bulbs as with these two alleged 125 watt equivalent Trisonic bulbs.</p>
<p>Clearly, anyone buying this Trisonic lamp cannot use it to replace a 100 or 125 watt bulb, even if one just buys it in an emergency and doesn&#8217;t care how long it lasts or if it falls apart after 1,000 hours of use. There is no UL or ETL label on this bulb, and no FCC electronic ballast ID#. Lower income people, after getting stung with this junk, will probably avoid CFL&#8217;s in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandeep Kochhar</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2008/09/09/cfl-bulb-review-recommended-cfl-bulbs-to-replace-incandescent/comment-page-1/#comment-62143</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandeep Kochhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,
I&#039;m just starting to dig into the details of CFL bulbs, but here&#039;s one thing I ran into with my first scenario.  I replaced all the incandescent bulbs in my dad&#039;s house with CFLs (in India; the electrician bought the bulbs and I didn&#039;t look at the brand etc) --- the lighting was fine, but I when I took pictures with my digital camera, all the pictures would have several blurring/streaking (similar to shooting traffic at night with a long exposure).  This was indoors with or without natural lighting, but the bulbs were on.  If I shut the flash off or shut the bulbs off, the pictures were fine.   It seems the CFLs are confusing the automatic aperture/light-meter settings of my digital camera.  Have you run into this kind of problem?
Sandeep Kochhar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
I&#8217;m just starting to dig into the details of CFL bulbs, but here&#8217;s one thing I ran into with my first scenario.  I replaced all the incandescent bulbs in my dad&#8217;s house with CFLs (in India; the electrician bought the bulbs and I didn&#8217;t look at the brand etc) &#8212; the lighting was fine, but I when I took pictures with my digital camera, all the pictures would have several blurring/streaking (similar to shooting traffic at night with a long exposure).  This was indoors with or without natural lighting, but the bulbs were on.  If I shut the flash off or shut the bulbs off, the pictures were fine.   It seems the CFLs are confusing the automatic aperture/light-meter settings of my digital camera.  Have you run into this kind of problem?<br />
Sandeep Kochhar</p>
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		<title>By: LED Bulb Makers Following CFL&#8217;s (Horrible) Lead? &#124; Five Percent: Conserve a Little Energy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LED Bulb Makers Following CFL&#8217;s (Horrible) Lead? &#124; Five Percent: Conserve a Little Energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have written several times about how CFL manufacturers and retailers seem to be their own worst enemies. The first [...]</description>
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