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		<title>By: Tom Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris --
I&#039;m not familiar with this kind of wiring.  Maybe the folks at Energy Inc. could help you out.
Sorry!
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with this kind of wiring.  Maybe the folks at Energy Inc. could help you out.</p>
<p>Sorry!</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hunt</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2009/10/14/google-powermeter-showed-me-how-and-why-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-62447</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tom, that worked and I can now get my stats out.  Not ready for prime-time yet (and since it&#039;s hosted on my home system the link is pretty slow) but it&#039;s a start.
I do have another question and that is, have you ever seen CTs that work with bus-bar setups?  I tried hooking up a TED 5000 for a neighbor whose breaker box doesn&#039;t have the mains coming in and out to clamp around, but instead has the bus-bar style of conduit mounted right on the wall.  3-4 wires come out of each conduit (4 conduits all together) once through the punch-out, but no way to clamp around the conduit as it now sits.  The back of the CT would almost have to be flat.  Seen any workaround for that?
Thanks,  Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom, that worked and I can now get my stats out.  Not ready for prime-time yet (and since it&#8217;s hosted on my home system the link is pretty slow) but it&#8217;s a start.</p>
<p>I do have another question and that is, have you ever seen CTs that work with bus-bar setups?  I tried hooking up a TED 5000 for a neighbor whose breaker box doesn&#8217;t have the mains coming in and out to clamp around, but instead has the bus-bar style of conduit mounted right on the wall.  3-4 wires come out of each conduit (4 conduits all together) once through the punch-out, but no way to clamp around the conduit as it now sits.  The back of the CT would almost have to be flat.  Seen any workaround for that?</p>
<p>Thanks,  Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Harrison</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2009/10/14/google-powermeter-showed-me-how-and-why-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-62443</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris --
Here&#039;s what I did to get my Footprints visible externally.
First, a recent version of the TED firmware provides for basic authentication, for the display itself, or for the display and configuration (cool!).  So turn that on.
Then, configure your router so that it &quot;port forwards&quot; requests on a given port (http is usually 80, but I picked something different to be a little obtuse). You&#039;ll have an option to send those requests to a specific IP address in your local network -- the IP address of the TED.
All done!  Well, ok, now you need to test, so you need to know your home&#039;s public IP address: easy, go to http://whatismyip.com/ and it will display on the top.
So if your public ip address is 232.141.456.29 and you set your port to 12345 you should be able to see your Footprints.html using the url http://232.141.456.29:12345/Footprints.html  -- depending on which options you selected for authentication, you may need to log in.
Pretty easy if you&#039;re comfortable doing the router setup.
Have fun!
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I did to get my Footprints visible externally.</p>
<p>First, a recent version of the TED firmware provides for basic authentication, for the display itself, or for the display and configuration (cool!).  So turn that on.</p>
<p>Then, configure your router so that it &#8220;port forwards&#8221; requests on a given port (http is usually 80, but I picked something different to be a little obtuse). You&#8217;ll have an option to send those requests to a specific IP address in your local network &#8212; the IP address of the TED.</p>
<p>All done!  Well, ok, now you need to test, so you need to know your home&#8217;s public IP address: easy, go to <a href="http://whatismyip.com/" rel="nofollow">http://whatismyip.com/</a> and it will display on the top.</p>
<p>So if your public ip address is 232.141.456.29 and you set your port to 12345 you should be able to see your Footprints.html using the url <a href="http://232.141.456.29:12345/Footprints.html" rel="nofollow">http://232.141.456.29:12345/Footprints.html</a>  &#8212; depending on which options you selected for authentication, you may need to log in.  </p>
<p>Pretty easy if you&#8217;re comfortable doing the router setup.</p>
<p>Have fun!</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hunt</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2009/10/14/google-powermeter-showed-me-how-and-why-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-62442</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - I&#039;ve read all your posts and I&#039;m still wondering if you have found a way to actively publish your TED 5000 data to the web (and not just using Google&#039;s PowerMeter app).
I have a TED 5000 as well and ran through a number of the problems you describe (and didn&#039;t realize you were documenting &#039;til too late).  But I would like friends to be able to see the actual footprints data not just a summary from Google&#039;s PM app.  I realize the 192. IP address returned from the router is a private address behind the firewall but do you know a way to publish the ongoing data on a site (and which doesn&#039;t risk hacking   intrusions)?
Thanks,  Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; I&#8217;ve read all your posts and I&#8217;m still wondering if you have found a way to actively publish your TED 5000 data to the web (and not just using Google&#8217;s PowerMeter app).  </p>
<p>I have a TED 5000 as well and ran through a number of the problems you describe (and didn&#8217;t realize you were documenting &#8217;til too late).  But I would like friends to be able to see the actual footprints data not just a summary from Google&#8217;s PM app.  I realize the 192. IP address returned from the router is a private address behind the firewall but do you know a way to publish the ongoing data on a site (and which doesn&#8217;t risk hacking   intrusions)?   </p>
<p>Thanks,  Chris</p>
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		<title>By: David Fay</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,
That doesn&#039;t seem right to me. Look at your graph labeled &quot;Sunday&quot; and focus on the 6 hour period from 12 am to 6 am when there is little going on but baseload. I count 24 bars in that 6 hours, one bar for each 15 minutes. If each bar is kWh, then your baseload is about 1/4 kWh (eyeballing the graph) per 15 minutes or 1 kWh per hour. That&#039;s 24 kWh per day in baseload alone, yet the graph says you used only 13 kWh that day.
On the other hand, if the y-axis is kW, as it is labeled, then your baseload is 1/4 kWh per hour or 6 kWh per day, much more in keeping with a total energy usage of 13 kWh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t seem right to me. Look at your graph labeled &#8220;Sunday&#8221; and focus on the 6 hour period from 12 am to 6 am when there is little going on but baseload. I count 24 bars in that 6 hours, one bar for each 15 minutes. If each bar is kWh, then your baseload is about 1/4 kWh (eyeballing the graph) per 15 minutes or 1 kWh per hour. That&#8217;s 24 kWh per day in baseload alone, yet the graph says you used only 13 kWh that day.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if the y-axis is kW, as it is labeled, then your baseload is 1/4 kWh per hour or 6 kWh per day, much more in keeping with a total energy usage of 13 kWh.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Harrison</title>
		<link>http://fivepercent.us/2009/10/14/google-powermeter-showed-me-how-and-why-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-62428</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, confusing.  Watts are a measure of power; energy is power delivered over time.  So a 100W light bulb on for an hour uses 100 watt-hours, for 10 hours uses 1000 watt hours, or 1 kWh.  We pay our electric company for energy, so in kWh.
But the graph is confusing indeed, as it says &quot;electricity in kW&quot;,
but it&#039;s really average kWh used over the period of the bar.  Maybe not ideal, but I like what the display tells me.
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, confusing.  Watts are a measure of power; energy is power delivered over time.  So a 100W light bulb on for an hour uses 100 watt-hours, for 10 hours uses 1000 watt hours, or 1 kWh.  We pay our electric company for energy, so in kWh.</p>
<p>But the graph is confusing indeed, as it says &#8220;electricity in kW&#8221;,<br />
but it&#8217;s really average kWh used over the period of the bar.  Maybe not ideal, but I like what the display tells me.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: blalor</title>
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		<dc:creator>blalor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the screenshots.  Still trying to &lt;strike&gt;copy Google PowerMeter and TED&lt;/strike&gt; roll my own solution.  I&#039;m tracking just current draw right now, so my numbers are in amp-hours, and I know that my readings are a little high when compared to the flashing IR LED on the meter outside, but if I estimate 120V that gets me to watt-hours.  So far, it looks like I&#039;m comparing favorably with your house. ;-)
The units on these graphs are a little confusing to me (I could totally have it wrong).  What are the bars in the graph showing?  Average or max kW for that period, or the total kWh for that period?  I don&#039;t get the relationship between kilowatts used throughout the day and total kilowatt-hours used being presented here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the screenshots.  Still trying to <strike>copy Google PowerMeter and TED</strike> roll my own solution.  I&#8217;m tracking just current draw right now, so my numbers are in amp-hours, and I know that my readings are a little high when compared to the flashing IR LED on the meter outside, but if I estimate 120V that gets me to watt-hours.  So far, it looks like I&#8217;m comparing favorably with your house. ;-)</p>
<p>The units on these graphs are a little confusing to me (I could totally have it wrong).  What are the bars in the graph showing?  Average or max kW for that period, or the total kWh for that period?  I don&#8217;t get the relationship between kilowatts used throughout the day and total kilowatt-hours used being presented here.</p>
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